9 Inches Pull /Push Radiator Electirc Thermo Curved Blade Fan+Mounting Kit+Relay. AskEngineers is a forum for questions about the technologies, standards, and processes used to design & build these systems, as well as for questions about the engineering profession and its many disciplines. Bulk savings: Buy 1. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like. 2Pcs 7" PULL PUSH BLADE RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO COOLING FAN + MOUNTING KITS. Push trim: The fan(s) suck in the air as if it/they were installed on top the radiator and "push" the air across the radiator fins. Though a lot of the replies here suggest that pushing is best, in my experience in the hvac industry, most air cooled chillers depend on the condenser coils being cooled using pulled air as a standard design. I would use pull for a front rad, that way you can see if a fan dies or something, and the front of the rad will be easier to clean just by removing the front panel and filter. Is it more efficient an effective for cooling performance to have a fan push air into a radiator or pull air out of a radiator ? Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. This applies to both push and pull configurations. shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . Item information. Idle (50%), Pull: 32-35 degrees. Pull in push - pull config produces marginally (but some times important) help to push fans to do do their job. A Push/Pull configuration is where you have a 'radiator sandwich'. Free postage. hide. or is it more … shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . My Radiator is 27mm Thick and the Fans are 25mm thick. 0 users rated this 2 out of 5 stars 0. AU $49.00. Universal 12V 14" PULL/PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO CURVED BLADE FAN KITS+Relay . save. 4. For a standard pass radiator, your not gonna notice any difference in push or pull, no matter what rpm the fan is. Now if the rad is like an DD extreme, or similiar, then I wouldn't be doing anything other then a push and pull set-up. For 2007-13 Yamaha WR 250 F WR450F Off-Road Powerbomb Header Exhaust Head Pipe 109.00 AUD . On a push configuration dust builds up between the radiator and fan, making it a little more difficult to clean. 3. 7" inch 12V volt Electric Cooling Fan Thermo Fan +Mounting kits High Per. 1 users rated this 5 out of 5 stars 1. Oh ok, didn’t really think of it that way. Generally the push fans are high static pressure (usually 3-pin DC). 280mm radiator top-mounted, pull-exhaust configuration. So the choice of push or pull (for me) really depends on where the radiator is in the case. The air downstream of the fan will be more turbulent than upstream. Idle (50%), Pull: 32-35 degrees. I've had such problem using SilentWings 3 fan on a radiator of my AiO, in corners with anti-vibration rubber you have areas that don't sit tight on the radiator and that's where you're losing pressure in either direction. So the choice of push or pull (for me) really depends on where the radiator is in the case. Push, the velocity of the air coming out of the fan will be higher than the air being pulled. 2PCS 14'' inch 12V Electric Radiator Push/Pull Cooling Thermo Fan+ Mounting Kits. If we are talking about a standard car type radiator with lots of fins I think pulling is the correct way. The difference in performance is minimal, but why not get the best you can get? Edit : A huge thanks to everyone that posted.. unfortunately I'm going to have to go with mounting the fan on the engine side of the radiator and having it pull the air through. With a 4x push and pull intake and 2x exhaust you will have a positive pressure on the case ... air is pushed out from every hole of the case (some cases makes high pitch noise with this config), also you need good intake filters Last edited: Feb 1, 2017. lexer98, Feb 1, 2017 #2. So what’s the most beneficial fan config for my case? AU $98.00. item 4 For 10 inch 12 V Thermo Radiator FAN Electric Cooling Fan & Mounting Kits 3 - For 10 inch 12 V Thermo Radiator FAN Electric Cooling Fan & Mounting Kits. item 4 For 10 inch 12 V Thermo Radiator FAN Electric Cooling Fan & Mounting Kits 3 - For 10 inch 12 V Thermo Radiator FAN Electric Cooling Fan & Mounting Kits. AU $39.00. Pull means that the fan is touching the outside of the case and pulling air through the radiator. But I cannot decide if I want push or pull, originally push made sense due to vent but would pull configuration pull more air through the vent if the radiator was next to it? Item information. If the fan has a cowling around the blade tips, air flow will be very similar but the issue may be where you are drawing the air from? Best-selling in Fans. level 2 Kaison12345 Thicker XE radiator manages to pull significantly ahead, almost matching SE radiator in push configuration on 1600 RPM. Now I'm getting 70c max with an average 58c. I switch between 50% fan and 70% fan. no comments yet. Exhausting air form inside the case through a radiator may give you a few degrees higher CPU temp in games because GPU makes a lot of hot air. Push, pull, or push/pull? Reason being, there isn't enough flow resistance to effect air movement. Push/Pull Fans on 360mm Radiator? Good saying: when in doubt push out. 6700K + 1080Ti. AU $67.50 each. Now, my temps: Idle (50%), Push: 26-28 degrees. Buy 3. I try and use "pull" as often as I can because it does not force dust/stuff into the fins of the radiator like "push" does. Personally, I prefer the order to be [Case > Rad > Fan] regardless of whether that is an intake or and exhaust. In terms of actual testing, I performed three tests per cooler – obviously testing out push, pull and push/pull fan configurations. (It's an ultra-hi speed Panaflo), and the noise between push and pull is the same. When you get a front mount you have to replace the large push style with a slimmer push style. 16"Inch 12V Radiator Reversible Electric Thermo Fan Pull Push Curved Blade+Relay. … But what about the size? The push/pull in the front was also to generate positive pressure, with the just the single exhaust in the back. 10 … AU $75.00 +AU $45.00 postage. Let’s now look at the Push/Pull results and see how the XE 360 compares. Push or pull makes no difference for the radiator. Thermochill Recommends push with the PA series of radiators. I would get a reversible electric fan and have it switch every so often to clear debris like they do on tractors. The key is to find the correct ratio between the 'push' and 'pull' fans. What space you have, the position the rad is mounted in, and whether you want it to work as an intake or an exhaust should make the decision for you. AU $35.00 + shipping . Results - On Prime95 after an hour, I got 84c on a i9 9900k 5.0 all cores at v1.30. 2PCS 7" 12V Electric Cooling Fan Thermo Fans & Mounting kits 7INCH. I switch between 50% fan and 70% fan. Push-pull is not really useful with nowadays rads. If the fans have high static presure, the airflow will be OK even passing through a radiator. If the fans have high static presure, the airflow will be OK even passing through a radiator. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 120mm fan on each side of the rad. This applies to both push and pull configurations. 12" 12v Radiator Fan Kit Universal Electric Push/pull Davies Craig 0162 1000. You can try to do exact calculations on the different heat rejections between the 2 orientations, but from the industry point of view, it will be negligible enough to justify changing the standard pull orientation. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the AskEngineers community. Push tends to leave a dead spot at the hub and due to turbulence created by the blades is not as effective. Purely from a "getting the maximum amount of cool air flow" point of view. The important is to … AU $32.55 each. DAVIES CRAIG Electrical Car and Truck Water Pumps. shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . The old HE they recommended a pull. That way you have pretty much undisturbed air which should go through easier. More than 10 available / 4 sold. Push. If you want the maximum performance, setup a "push/pull" configuration. Quantity: 4 or more for AU $61.43 each. 16 INCH THERMO FAN 12V … Load (70%), Push: 51-54 degrees. AU $75.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . 2PCS 14"FAN AND MOUNTING KIT 12V PULL PUSH RADIATOR … This would mean using any extra fans in push/pull makes little difference as the air is already flowing easily enough, rendering the extra fans redundant. 0 comments . Now, my temps: Idle (50%), Push: 26-28 degrees. What is the difference that makes push better for this design scenario? Is it more efficient an effective for cooling performance to have a fan push air into a radiator or pull air out of a radiator ? Push or pull makes no difference for the radiator. If you pull from over the engine then it may be worse than pulling fresh air in. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best-selling in Fans. Granted, my current build doesn't have that on the front rad but that was due to not having enough clearance to put the fans where I wanted them. 2Pcs 16" 12V PULL PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO CURVED BLADE FAN&MOUNTING KIT . Pull with a shroud or some other device that moves the fan blades 1/2 to 1 inch away from the rad fins is best. AU $69.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . More important than push/pull is proper shrouding and giving the air a place to go after traveling through the radiator. i would go for the quiet edition just because its such a huge improvement in noise but keeping the same relative performance as fans spinning at 2700rpm (the quiet spins at 1450 rpm). DAVIES CRAIG Thermo Fans Fans. And put a shroud around it to make sure all the airflow is actually going through the radiator. Sep 7, 2004 #6 H. HardOCP News [H] News. Sort by. Bulk savings: Buy 1. AU $35.00 each. Universal 16" Electric SPORTS Fan - Fan Set up as PULL. I would use pull for a front rad, that way you can see if a fan dies or something, and the front of the rad will be easier to clean just by removing the front panel and filter. Find out what fan configuration is best for cooling down your radiator. I'll build a small circuit to reverse the direction of the fan every few minutes for 20 seconds or so to clear the grass anyway. I’m planning on getting the Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX and was wondering if there’s enough space at the top for a Push Pull Radiator without any clearance issues the the Ram or Motherboard. maybe get better fans like the corsair sp120's either quiet or performance edition depending on your preference of noise level. 1 product rating. Load (70%), Push: 51-54 degrees. Typical designs for case cooling use a pull intake on the front, with a top/rear being exhausts. Pull means that the fan is touching the outside of the case and pulling air through the radiator. Most people doing that will do a push setup because of the mounts they have and also the backs of fans can look a bit ugly level 1 A Push/Pull configuration is where you have a 'radiator sandwich'. First and foremost, my noise is the same. Load (70%), Pull: 57-60 eek degrees! The stock auto Supra has the single mechanical fan, a small electrical pull fan on the driver's side and a larger push style as well on the driver's side. AU $62.78 each. I don't know about fan aero... although I do know bearings and motors a bit, and would say for fan reliability, push is less heat on the fan motor's bearings. eBay item number: 222808782410. You can use the stock fans, just expect that they're not as efficient, or as quiet, as most aftermarket ones. 7" inch 12V volt Electric Cooling Fan Thermo Fan +Mounting kits High Per AU . Condition: Brand New. AU $39.00. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Details about 10" inch 12V PULL/PUSH SLIM RADIATOR ELECTRIC COOLING THERMO FAN+MOUNTING KITS. Log in or sign up to leave a comment Log In Sign Up. (It's an ultra-hi speed Panaflo), and the noise between push and pull is the same. I've had such problem using SilentWings 3 fan on a radiator of my AiO, in corners with anti-vibration rubber you have areas that don't sit tight on the radiator and that's where you're losing pressure in either direction. Sort by. For a standard pass radiator, your not gonna notice any difference in push or pull, no matter what rpm the fan is. Also wondering if I can use the nzxt stock fans that come with the case and the aio stock fans for a push-pull config. Am I missing something? Am I missing something? AU $59.00. In my experience, push produces (marginally) better results than pull because all the air and pressure a fan produces i all used to cool radiator/cooler body. Thread starter Lumpus; Start date Jul 20, 2019; Jul 20, 2019 #1 L. Lumpus Limp Gawd. See all 21. shipping: + AU $45.00 shipping . Does anyone have any thoughts or experience on these push/pull fan options, one … So an obvious question arises, “Is it better to use the fan to push fresh air into the unit to be cooled (positive pressure), or to put the fan on the exhaust side and pull heated air through and out of it (negative pressure) (see Figure 1)?” It seems like a simple-enough question, and it should have a simple answer. Which do I recommend? The custom car world almost unanimously agrees that puller fans are more efficient, though there's not really any data out there. Condenser coils are the heat rejection part of a … A “Push/Pull” radiator setup can be cheaper, higher performance and quieter than some “Push” only setups. share. 2. Ideally you should use it as an intake to get the coolest air. Joined Sep 2, 2005 Messages 358. best. AU $69.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . Let’s double check that at medium fan speeds. I recently went push/pull (same configs/same mount). Cookies help us deliver our Services. 10" inch 12V PULL/PUSH SLIM RADIATOR ELECTRIC COOLING THERMO FAN+MOUNTING KITS. AU $55.00. At first I did a intake push through the rad. With a 4x push and pull intake and 2x exhaust you will have a positive pressure on the case ... air is pushed out from every hole of the case (some cases makes high pitch noise with this config), also you need good intake filters Last edited: Feb 1, 2017. lexer98, Feb 1, 2017 #2. Joined Dec 31, 1969 Messages 0. both. AU $49.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . Quantity: 4 or more for AU $31.85 each. The push/pull in the front was also to generate positive pressure, with the just the single exhaust in the back. hide. AU $78.00. 240mm radiator front-mounted, push-intake configuration. Pair 12INCH PULL PUSH RADIATOR Electirc Thermo Curved Blade FAN+MOUNTING KIT. shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . Press J to jump to the feed. best. AU $64.13 each. A upstream (pusher) fan sits flush up to the front of the radiator core.A downstream (puller) fan on the other hand sits right behind and flush with the rear of the radiator core.The downstream puller fan pulls air through the radiator and has less impact on airflow at high speeds than a upstream pusher fan since it is behind the radiator. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Condenser coils are the heat rejection part of a chiller so it acts like a radiator in this case. 16"Inch 12V Radiator Reversible Electric Thermo Fan Pull Push Curved Blade+Relay. Edit: Yeah, you will be cooling the radiator more effectively, but the ultimate goal is to cool the engine. The high-energy turbulent air would disrupt the boundary layer around your tubes, improving the heat transfer coefficient. AU $75.00. The XE 360 continues it’s winning streak taking another first place. TONS of people have asked me about fan configurations for radiators and heatsinks. Push. It's driving me crazy and I love this community,always good advice. If you are just talking about the fans on your case, most builders will refer to these as either exhaust or intake fans. You may also like. shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . i would go for the quiet edition just because its such a huge improvement in noise but keeping the same relative performance as fans spinning at 2700rpm (the quiet spins at 1450 rpm). I do agree on the suggestion that it might be better to keep the temperature increase linear, in which case it would make sense to have the radiator up top. 2X14"Inch 12V PULL PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO CURVED BLADE FAN KIT UNIVERSAL. Interesting that so many people are saying push when the vast majority of car radiators pull and the radiator for my home AC is also pull. Another factor could be the fan speed. Without going into boring details I'm about to built a different cooling system for my Walker MDD ride on mower, it's an older model that commonly suffered from overheating issues due to a non reversible fan and poor grass discharge design. Share - 12" 12v Radiator Fan Kit Universal Electric Push/pull Davies Craig 0162 1000. Compatibility: See compatible vehicles. So, if you want optimal overall temps, you should give your radiator fresh air. Or if push is just better then why do so many other radiators use pull? And when the fans are placed behind and in front of the radiator, that’s known as a push/pull configuration. Push-pull is the obvious best option.. You can put more fans at lower RPM. maybe get better fans like the corsair sp120's either quiet or performance edition depending on your preference of noise level. shipping: + AU $75.00 shipping . Joined Jan 9, 2008 Messages 118. well it all depends how you installed your rad, internal or external. AU $35.00 +AU $50.00 postage. Pull trim: the fan(s) suck in the air as if/they were installed below the radiator and "pull" the air across the radiator fins. So my question is, I'm going to mount an electric fan on the radiator, which is side on to the mower (so not at the front like a car), am I better to have it pull the air through the radiator, or mount it on the other side and have it push it through? Testing push vs pull vs push/pull. I disagree. Dominic Moass December 28, 2016 Cooling, Featured Tech Reviews When I built my first PC a few years back, I … I prefer top-mounted for aesthetics, the build with front/intake radiator mount is simply because the case did not support top/exhaust with the mATX mobo, case is a Corsair Air 240. Auto: You want to draw a line between where the fan does the work, and where the fan is useless... that number is in MPH. AU $78.00. AU $75.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . Here's an episode that we've been asked to do for quite some time. Switching a forces draft cooling tower out for an induced draft one will drop the required HP for the same load by about a third. Here in lies the problem – the additional fan increases the total thickness of the radiator setup by 25mm. no comments yet. Push Pull Switch Car and … Engineers apply the knowledge of math & science to design and manufacture maintainable systems used to solve specific problems. item 3 16" inch PULL/PUSH RADIATOR Electric Thermo Curved Blade FAN & MOUNTING 24V 2 - 16" inch PULL/PUSH RADIATOR Electric Thermo Curved Blade FAN & MOUNTING 24V. -Dan . save. This is the place to ask! For Push/Pull we have averaged the results from the 3 flow rates at which we tested. There we see the strengths of push-pull configurations – you can get a quieter system by running fans on significantly less RPM without sacrificing much performance. In that scenario, the front fans push the air through the radiator while the rear fans pull the air through. Description. 6600K + 1060. In terms of actual testing, I performed three tests per cooler – obviously testing out push, pull and push/pull fan configurations. 2PCS 14"FAN AND MOUNTING KIT 12V PULL PUSH RADIATOR … 16"Inch Pull/Push Radiator Electirc Thermo Curved Blade Fan & Mounting. This is assuming the fan being used is a static pressure fan, since those are supposed to have a more focused flow for restricted air flow situations, like a radiator. Condition: Brand New. 0 comments . I do agree on the suggestion that it might be better to keep the temperature increase linear, in which case it would make sense to have the radiator up top. item 7 16" inch Pull Push Radiator Electirc Thermo fan+Mounting Curved blade Muscle Car - 16" inch Pull Push Radiator Electirc Thermo fan+Mounting Curved blade Muscle Car. Push-pull is not really useful with nowadays rads. Pair 12INCH PULL PUSH RADIATOR Electirc Thermo Curved Blade FAN+MOUNTING KIT. AU $35.00 +AU $50.00 postage. THe air can go around. To keep positive pressure I'll pick up an extra fan for the intake and have 3x 140mm fans bringing air in. First and foremost, my noise is the same. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Joined Apr 14, 2014 Messages 70 (0.03/day) Apr 14, 2014 #1 Case: NZXT Phantom 530 CPU: i5 4670k Cooler: Seidon 240mm Is it ok to use 2 x 120mm fan for the push config and 2 x 200mm for pull config does it affect the performance of the cooler? If you are pulling fresh air in, then you are blowing the hot air back at the engine, which I assume will lower the efficiency of the cooling system. shipping: + AU $600.00 shipping . If you are just talking about the fans on your case, most builders will … Reason being, there isn't enough flow resistance to effect air movement. 16" inch PULL/PUSH RADIATOR Electric Thermo Curved Blade FAN & MOUNTING 12V. My Radiator is 27mm Thick and the Fans are 25mm thick. TONS of people have asked me about fan configurations for radiators and heatsinks. 12" 12V PULL PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC SLIM THERMO CURVED BLADE COOLING FAN KIT. The fan motors are usually mounted on top of the condenser coils. AU $49.00 + AU $600.00 shipping . 3 Core … 5.0 average based on 1 product rating. AU $64.00. Buy 3. DAVIES CRAIG Thermo Fan Mounting Kits Fans. 1. Be the first to write a review. So it's probably dependent upon specific radiator. If you push the air is very turbulent and less likely to go through the straight fins. AU $75.00 +AU $45.00 postage. If you 'pull' the air you create a very small vacuum with (in theory) a lower heat transfer, if you 'push' the air you are adding the heat from the electric fan motor, making the temperature difference smaller. 9" PULL/PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO CUEVED BLADE FAN MOUNTING KITS+RELAY KITS. DAVIES CRAIG Car and Truck Fans . 9" PULL PUSH RADIATOR ELECTRIC THERMO CUEVED BLADE FAN MOUNTING KIT 80W. Though a lot of the replies here suggest that pushing is best, in my experience in the hvac industry, most air cooled chillers depend on the condenser coils being cooled using pulled air as a standard design. See all . You’ll see there are two distinct groups – the Push/Pull radiators from 76% up, and the push only group from 40-50% In other words ANY radiator with push/pull fans is significantly better than ANY radiator with push only fans at similar RPM. 12" Inch Pull /Push Radiator Electirc Thermo Curved Blade Fan+Mounting Relay Kit 65.00 AUD . I’m planning on getting the Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX and was wondering if there’s enough space at the top for a Push Pull Radiator without any clearance issues the the Ram or Motherboard. with a smaller radiator thats 120mm then push pull is the way to go. Trending at AU $65.10. Buy 2. Back in the olden days the fan was mounted directly to the front of the engine, so pull was the only option. This decision usually comes down to the most convenient place to mount the fan, rather than the most efficient design. 0 users rated this 3 out of 5 stars 0. Buy 2. Pulling is definitely more efficient with HVAC equipment. share. Push means that the fan is closer to the inside of the case and pushes air though the radiator. You want a slight positive pressure on your case, generally speaking as well. shipping: + AU $600.00 … Push/Pull Data vs. Competition. To keep positive pressure I'll pick up an extra fan for the intake and have 3x 140mm fans bringing air in. I'm thinking about a side mounted 360mm radiator strictly for a GPU w/c loop and I'm a bit concerned about available space for adding 6 120mm fans to it.
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